Predicting the future...

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Predicting the future...

Post by bailouts4ever » 07 Nov 2011, 16:45

Let's be honest - nobody can predict the future. It is therefore utter nonsense thinking that one can be 100% sure about future outcomes and developments. Still, our times and official actions against the crisis can be pretty "predictable". So, when e.g. the EFSF was set up last year I guess that most of us were aware of the fact the this little bit would not be enough to rescue the Euro zone...

That's what sparked my though of opening a haystack thread for discussing "predictions about the future".

My official first prediction that I want to put up for discussion is:

There will shortly be an attack on Iran in order to distract the masses away from the systemic crisis towards the conflict. I further predict that Israel, the US and Great Britain will be leading the charge.

Please feel free to dispute my suggestion or suggest a prediction yourself.

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Re: Predicting the future...

Post by Spruitje » 07 Nov 2011, 19:19

I don't believe that the US will participate in an attack on Iran, in the US are elections next year you know. I don't believe that Obama will start a war and spend lots of money while they have a debt crisis. :roll:
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Re: Predicting the future...

Post by bailouts4ever » 07 Nov 2011, 20:17

At first sight your argumentation is absolutely suitable. Yet, with the US (and British) economy again and again unable to ignite and a growing disapproval of both Obama and Cameron it is the perfect method to distract the people. Obama can stand out as a strong man and at the same time manage to develop his economy.

War here not only works as a disguise but also as a jump starter for the economy...

All the bad news about the economy, debt and unable politicians will vanish being replaced by a "Yes, we can" approach of leading the free world into a war due to a rogue terrorist nation's approach to acquire weapons of mass destruction...(Sounds all too familiar, doesn't it?)

I hope I am proven wrong, but have the feeling that this will be the way it's going to happen.
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Re: Predicting the future...

Post by mcduff » 07 Nov 2011, 21:01

bailouts4ever wrote: There will shortly be an attack on Iran in order to distract the masses away from the systemic crisis towards the conflict. I further predict that Israel, the US and Great Britain will be leading the charge.
Could happen. But not without a false flag "terrorist" attack first. They need a good excuse this time around. Not just "we think they have WMD".

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Re: Predicting the future...

Post by Indiana Jones » 07 Nov 2011, 21:11

mcduff wrote:
bailouts4ever wrote: There will shortly be an attack on Iran in order to distract the masses away from the systemic crisis towards the conflict. I further predict that Israel, the US and Great Britain will be leading the charge.
Could happen. But not without a false flag "terrorist" attack first. They need a good excuse this time around. Not just "we think they have WMD".
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Re: Predicting the future...

Post by Paul » 08 Nov 2011, 10:22

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/where-are ... e-approach

"Where are we now?

February 2010 | EU and Greece reach austerity plan
April 2011 | Portgual asks for a bailout
October 2011 | Greece 'haircut' ruled voluntary - MF Global Goes Down - CDS now meaningless
December 2011 | Greek default no longer the world's focus as Italy collapses
January 2012 | Greece defaults
March 2012 | Germany to leave the EU
June 2012 | French banks fail - French yields soar as bond auctions fail"

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Re: Predicting the future...

Post by bailouts4ever » 08 Nov 2011, 11:08

Oh, it's getting interesting!

All suggestions are completely feasible and realistic. Keep it up!

What about Greece leaving the Euro --> thus French banks in need of recapitalization --> thus France loses AAA rating --> thus EFSF in danger.
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Post by Boefke » 08 Nov 2011, 11:18

Reading all your thoughts about the future, I think it is fair from my side to join this thread with my own expectation (prediction is so stated).

In my expectation the EFSF will, when fully operational (this will take some time) take away the focus of the financial world on Europe.

Then the real story begins.

The focus will be on the real problem-country's responsible for the problems we're dealing with for more than 40 years now. The USA, Britain and Japan will be the next targets......and as I am expecting they will NOT be able to solve their problems in a way the Europeans will have done by than. Resulting in a chaos and devastating storm.....destroying the hegemony of the $ as we now it.

I am not putting on this a time frame.

The longer it takes......the more time we have to prepare ourselves for the coming storm.

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Re: Predicting the future...

Post by eduro » 08 Nov 2011, 11:25

Paul wrote:http://www.zerohedge.com/news/where-are ... e-approach

"Where are we now?

February 2010 | EU and Greece reach austerity plan
April 2011 | Portgual asks for a bailout
October 2011 | Greece 'haircut' ruled voluntary - MF Global Goes Down - CDS now meaningless
December 2011 | Greek default no longer the world's focus as Italy collapses
January 2012 | Greece defaults
March 2012 | Germany to leave the EU
June 2012 | French banks fail - French yields soar as bond auctions fail"

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Re: Predicting the future...

Post by bailouts4ever » 08 Nov 2011, 11:55

@Boefke:

If the EFSF ever gets operational (I doubt that as it seems that no one is stupid enough to "invest" money into it - oh wait, Russia said it would contribute 7.3 billion to the IMF - but it is still a long, long way from 7.3 billion to 1,000.00) I think your thought is absolutely feasible. The US, Japan and GB are happy now as the spotlight is on the Euro zone.

Looking at the details I think that the US and GB are really screwed here and once the masses realize they are doomed. Although for Japan the debt/GDP ratio looks utterly grim I believe that they due to high degree of
- self-investment,
- discipline,
- export strength
- high productivity
- proximity to a very vivid neighborhood
may be able to find a different solution than the haggard US and Britain.

@eduro:

You are absolutely right in my view: (Under normal circumstances) THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN. We will never see Germany leave the EU, maybe the Euro but not the EU.
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