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Gisteren zette Sinclair onderstaand bericht op zijn website, "hij was een beetje dom" zou Maxima zeggen. Daarom heb ik hem maar een mailtje gestuurd met de waarheid:
http://www.examiner.com/article/largest ... rs?cid=rss

1) AbnAmro is al lang niet meer de grootste bank van Nederland en al helemaal geen grote speler meer in Europa;
2) fysieke uitlevering van precious metals liep altijd via de AbnAmro dochter HBU Rotterdam;
3) HBU heeft nooit munten geleverd, maar altijd baren (rechtstreeks via de kas of via rekening), die in principe bedoeld waren voor de smederijen in de juwelen business en dit waren baren goud, zilver, platina en palladium;
4) Om van de futuremarkt af te zijn bood HBU zijn zakelijke klanten en grote particulieren een precious metal account aan (XAU, XAG etc.), waarop fysieke uitlevering kon plaatsvinden by default (zolang de voorraad strekte). Deze accounts vielen van meet-af-aan al BUITEN de bankgarantie;
5) Sinds 2004 werd HBU steeds meer geconfronteerd met kleine particulieren (niet echt rendabel) waardoor HBU het minimum voor het aanhouden van een precious account al in 2004 limiteerde op 25K en later zelfs op 250K en daarnaast sinds 2007 de uitleveringskosten verhoogde;
6) Uitlevering via AbnAmro gram-goud/zilver/platina/palladium beleggingsrekening kon ook, maar daar waren deze rekeningen in principe niet voor bedoeld (deze rekening vielen binnen de garantie). Het AbnAmro personeel was niet geïnstrueerd, dus als particulieren al uitlevering wilden, moest dat via HBU wat in 2004 al heel wat inspanning kostte, vele weken duurde en hoge kosten met zich meebracht (Wilbert Geers http://www.edelmetaal-info.nl/ schreef dat toen al op zijn website);

7) Na de nationalisatie was AbnAmro verplicht om HBU te verkopen en Deutsche Bank was de enige koper. AbnAmro had dat liever niet gedaan, want de geboden prijs was ver onder de waarde;
8) Met Deutsche Bank werd een tussentijdse overeenkomst gesloten, dat zij op verzoek van AbnAmro fysiek precious zouden leveren, als klanten met gram-beleggingsrekeningen van AbnAmro daarom vroegen. De kosten van uitlevering werden daardoor wel fors opgeschroefd. De precious metaldesk en fysieke uitlevering bleven onder Deutsche Bank Rotterdam (voormalig HBU) gewoon in stand, alleen de kosten werden verder opgeschroefd;

9) In Augustus 2012 werd overnight de (vrm HBU) Precious Metal Desk opgeheven, terwijl de medewerkers van deze desk eerder hadden vernomen dat deze handel bij Deutsche Bank gewoon in stand zou blijven. Alle medewerkers (alsmede de klanten) van de Desk waren overdonderd en sommigen kwamen plots op straat te staan. Daarnaast had AbnAmro plots een probleem, want ze konden niet meer op verzoek van klanten uitleveren;
10) AbnAmro heeft intern naar oplossingen gezocht, kwam tot de conclusie dat de precious-gram-beleggings-participatie-giro rekeningen (want zo heten deze rekeningen en de naam duidt erop dat het feitelijk een giraal product is) vanwege de vraag ernaar wel konden worden voortgezet. Ze besloten de dienst dan toch maar voort te zetten, maar nu via UBS. UBS dekt voor een deel de saldi met fysiek af (zoals HBU dat vroeger ook deed), maar UBS levert niet fysiek uit (wat HBU dus vroeger wel deed).

Conclusie:

-Het physical gold default van AbnAmro is één grote HOAX in de goud-guru-wereld. Als het al een default zou moeten zijn (wat het dus absoluut niet is), is het tevens een fysiek zilver- en platina default en palladium heeft de AbnAmro NOOIT uitgeleverd (HBU deed dat wel en ook hier waren de klanten in principe smederijen)

-Wat geen HOAX is, maar wat niet wordt genoemd: zowel UBS alsmede Deutsche Bank A.G. zitten in het libor-kartel en zitten in het goudkartel :!:
Beide banken zijn net zo sluw als Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan en het woord 'Deutsche' is een valse hoop. Immers, voor gouden munten moet je in Duitsland bij de Aldi zijn ..... NIET bij Deutsche Bank. A.G.
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Indiana Jones wrote:...
Beide banken zijn net zo sluw als Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan en het woord 'Deutsche' is een valse hoop. Immers, voor gouden munten moet je in Duitsland bij de Aldi zijn ..... NIET bij Deutsche Bank. A.G.
Correctie, Aldi Duitsland verkoopt geen gouden munten, Lidl Duitsland doet dit echter wél, maar dan enkel via de online-shop.

Knappe bijdrage Indy. ;) Nieuwsgierig of Jim het gaat brengen op z'n site.
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Spruitje wrote:
Indiana Jones wrote:...
Beide banken zijn net zo sluw als Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan en het woord 'Deutsche' is een valse hoop. Immers, voor gouden munten moet je in Duitsland bij de Aldi zijn ..... NIET bij Deutsche Bank. A.G.
Correctie, Aldi Duitsland verkoopt geen gouden munten, Lidl Duitsland doet dit echter wél, maar dan enkel via de online-shop.

Knappe bijdrage Indy. ;) Nieuwsgierig of Jim het gaat brengen op z'n site.
Subject: Re: AbnAmro article does NOT tell the thruth
From: James Sinclair (treceo108@me.com)
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 06:55:27 -0400
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Assuming the facts as you present not Amro

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April 5, 2013

Sinclair - This Will Create The Mother Of All Financial Crises

Sinclair: “The Plunge Protection Team (PPT) is not a speculation. There is a group of advisors to the White House which deals with markets. They also gather when markets are in extreme conditions. So to be clear, there is an organization which is designed to intervene in the markets.

The problem now is they are manipulating every market on the planet. So you had this group which was created to stabilize during extreme conditions that has now decided their job is to run all of the markets of the world....

“Part of what these new masters of the markets do is control the price of key commodities such as oil and gold. When oil rises it indicates inflation. As gold rises it casts doubt over the dollar. So as I have mentioned previously, on the opposite side of the PPT, you have to have the RPT or Rally Protection Team.

What has been happening in the gold market since the Cyprus disaster is a depreciation of the price of gold that has no fundamental rationale to it whatsoever. The idea that you can take depositors’ money is a complete reversal of the strategy which has been in place since 2008.

But right now the government is manipulating so many markets it’s hard to understand how they can keep it all straight. Almost every major market in the world is being controlled in one way or another by one government group or another. It’s like a dam that’s about to fall apart and there are 1,000 fingers in every possible hole.

It will be like magic if in fact this type of strategy can be successfully employed for any significant length of time. You also have to bear in mind that all of these manipulations result in net positions. If there is selling in the paper markets by eight agents acting on behalf of the US government, who are in there to protect the dollar, when they sell something such as gold they create a position.

Even though these positions are not properly reported to the public, they do pile up. They do create a crowded corner in a market and interfere with a free market and its activity. So the idea that governments can do anything they please to fails to take into consideration that in suppressing the price of gold, positions are in fact taken.

People also have to keep in mind that a market which would only go to one side would be a market that would cease creating price in any kind of orderly manner. I believe we are now at a point where the tape and physical market in gold are now working directly against the government positions and the market is ready for a turn.

My opinion remains unchanged about what the gold market is going to do. I may have been off by a few days, but everything I see here indicates the depreciation in the price of gold has run its course, and will be proven to have run its course this week as the physical market is calling the government’s bluff.”

Eric King: “What were your thoughts on what Dr. Paul Craig Roberts had to say on KWN?”

Sinclair:
“Dr. Roberts said something that most people didn’t really understand in his KWN interview. He was speaking about the limitations of QE. We believe in QE to infinity, but Dr. Roberts clearly pointed out that infinity would be a period of time in which the dollar would begin to reflect the enormous creation of dollars and subsequently weaken.

So in a sense, yes, QE is limited by the ability of the US dollar to have a firm appearance. Right now the dollar is free and clear, but under .79 it comes into question, and under .72 on the USDX it’s (QE is) impossible. That would mean the crisis was at hand if the dollar broke under .72 and QE couldn’t continue.

The situation would then feed on itself and we would see a significantly lower dollar with a contracting economic environment that would create the Mother of all financial crises.”

Eric King: “Dr. Roberts also mentioned that Bernanke wants to pass the torch to the next guy before the collapse happens.”

Sinclair:
“It may not be the next guy, it may be the next gal (Yellen). The general thesis of can-kicking is when the can can’t be kicked any more, you are not there. During the crisis in Cyprus, in answer to questions, the Chairman (Bernanke) did open up the door to a strong possibility he might not choose to remain as Chairman of the Fed.

That is a significant consideration because I don’t think the Chairman, who is really the ‘bagman’ of the previous Chairman (Greenspan), really wants to be there when the collapse is in full swing. This is especially true if Cyprus is an attempt to create a change in how Chairman Bernanke had in fact planned the bailouts.

So if Cyprus is used to take depositors’ money, that’s a key change. If this is in fact the new strategy, then in a very short period of time you are going to see that all of the money put into the financial system from 2008 forward has been wasted. The Chairman’s effective resignation, by failing to stand for reappointment, would indicate he sees all of his efforts have been destroyed by the IMF’s ‘Cyprus Solution,’ and this will be a key signal that the end is at hand.”
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Posted on April 5, 2013

Offshore Accounts Exposed in Massive Leak

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A truly massive amount of names of people who have accounts offshore has been obtained and is up there now with the Hunt for Red October. Germans, Italians, Canadians, Americans, and more, are all up for sale. Because politicians are Marxists and cannot manage an economy, they have the audacity to criminalize anyone who has money they intend to spend as your “representative”. They cannot comprehend that this leads to the economic implosion and the collapse of the global economy. It is economically no different than forced communism. Joe Biden’s hateful remarks how the Republicans were for the “SUPER RICH” which is defined as HOUSEHOLD gross income of $250,000, not billions and not a single individual. This demonstrates that politicians will stash their ill-gotten gains away while hunting everyone else i.e. Hollande of France. Remember Charlie Rangle who forget he owned real estate?

Everything the Founding Fathers sought to create has been destroyed by Karl Marx and eagerly enforced by greedy politicians. What will the world be like with all freedoms incinerated? Nobody bothers to look where these steps lead. We could fix everything in 30 days or less and save our freedoms restoring our economic and military security if they would only do the right thing just for once.
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Posted on April 5, 2013
The Euro on the momentum indicators showed a bit over done, but at the same time the boarder term levels indicate that this currency is headed significantly lower. As the dollar is forced higher, this will impact the US economy and turn that down as well from 2015.75. These trends unfold in slow motion once you begin to see the connections. Capital flows like water.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/04/05/the-euro/
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Goldpreis schrabbelt die 1.550 Dollar entlang Wie tief kann Gold noch fallen? von Bettina Seidl
Es klingt ein bisschen nach verkehrter Welt: Die Notenbanken überschwemmen die Welt mit Geld, doch der Goldpreis fällt und fällt. Normalerweise schürt eine solche Geldflut Inflationsängste und bewegt Anleger Gold zu kaufen. Doch derzeit nicht.

Mr. Gold spricht von 4.000 Dollar
GFMS ist aber noch recht gemäßigt. Auch Commerzbank-Analyst Eugen Weinberg mit seiner 2.000 Dollar Prognose gehört noch lange nicht zu den extremen Optimisten.

Gold-Guru Jim Sinclair hat da schon abenteuerliche Prognosen von 3.500 und sogar 4.000 Dollar. Der Goldinvestor, der sich den Beinamen "Mr. Gold" verdiente, gibt allerdings keinen Zeitrahmen vor. Das schmälert den Wert seiner Prophezeiung, die aber immer noch geradezu bescheiden anmutet angesichts einiger Heißsporne, die 10.000 Dollar vorhersagen. Diese Ultra-Optimisten sind eigentlich Pessimisten: Weltuntergangspropheten, die nicht weniger als den Zusammenbruch unseres ganzen Finanzsystems vor Augen haben.

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It comes down to this: only one of us can be right. I love those odds.


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Spruitje wrote:Er steekt toch wat tussen de 2. :D
Zet twee haantjes in een hok vol met goudhennen en ....... :mrgreen:

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dat ziet ie dan wel weer goed die sinclair, dat er maar eentje gelijk heeft, alleen hij is het niet.
Armstrong maakt geen grapjes. Is ook niet grappig namelijk.

Sinclair valt (samen met de euro en FOFOA) letterlijk door de mand straks.
We gaan het meemaken. En ook dat wordt geen lolletje.
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