Hooimijt Augustus 2013

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doubleyou wrote:De vorige maanden zijn zowat alle mogelijke stijg- of daal-opnies verschenen, en iemand heeft ooit het grote gelijk aan zijn/haar kant.
Vandaag pik ik er één artikeltje van beurs.com uit :

Volgens Stephen Leeb gaan we op termijn twee blokken zien in de wereld. Aan de ene kant zijn er de landen China, Rusland en Duitsland, aan de andere kant staat de rest van de wereld. Inzet van dit alles is het goud.

http://www.beurs.com/2013/08/27/china-r ... goud/29279

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/ ... _Gold.html

't kan vriezen, 't kan dooien, 't kan héél heet worden :lol:
YTD the UK has exported 947t of gold to three countries. Hong Kong, UAE and Switzerland


In May 2013 the UK exported 36t to Hong Kong, 51t to Dubai, and 240t to Switzerland. Expensive month. #gold pic.twitter.com/yuuFs1PcTw
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Sanem wrote:degenen die het echt weten zullen het ons niet zeggen ;)
Als je DEZE dame kunt veroveren ........ ver-meervoudigen AL je commodity beleggingen, inclusief goud.

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goud in Roepie hoogste niveau ooit
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-2 ... r-20-years
misschien een poging om de bevolking af te doen zien van verdere aankopen?

zilver breekt door $25, waar ligt daar de weerstand?

edit: goud tot 1432 geweest, dus de weerstand aan 1421-1424 is gebroken? waar ligt de volgende weerstand?
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Saudis offer Russia secret oil deal if it drops Syria
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/08/2 ... ops-syria/


spelletjes, spelletjes en nog eens spelletjes .... dát is de realiteit, ongeacht wat wij ervan vinden en ongeacht het aantal mensenlevens en alle pijn die deze spelletjes kosten ....
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Indiana Jones wrote:Saudis offer Russia secret oil deal if it drops Syria
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/08/2 ... ops-syria/


spelletjes, spelletjes en nog eens spelletjes .... dát is de realiteit, ongeacht wat wij ervan vinden en ongeacht het aantal mensenlevens en alle pijn die deze spelletjes kosten ....
Tja. De russen weten trouwens ook wat spelletjes spelen is. Russian Roulette?

Trouwens, hebben de russen niet zelf olie? Die worden niet warm of koud van extra olie. Die willen strategische belangen, en dat is wat de Saoudi's niet kunnen bieden.
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Sanem wrote:goud in Roepie hoogste niveau ooit
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-2 ... r-20-years
misschien een poging om de bevolking af te doen zien van verdere aankopen?

zilver breekt door $25, waar ligt daar de weerstand?

edit: goud tot 1432 geweest, dus de weerstand aan 1421-1424 is gebroken? waar ligt de volgende weerstand?
Misschien kun je beter Armstrong volgen .... hij plot objectiever dan de rest in goudland ;)

Gold has rallied up to the key resistance level. We now need a weekly closing above the 1423 level before we go further on any sustained basis. The Daily Bullish Reversals are 144500, 146200, and 147730. The Daily Bearish now lies at 135400 so watch that level below.
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/08/28/gold-dow-war/
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nieuw $100 briefje komt uit op 8 oktober 2013, hoewel het al in 2009 klaar was
er is veel goud in verwerkt, reden genoeg voor goudstandaard complottheorieën :?
http://lucas2012infos.wordpress.com/201 ... pril-2013/

misschien daarom dat de VS net nu Syrië wil binnenvallen?
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Gold Continues to Rise in India
Posted on August 29, 2013 by Martin Armstrong

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The most important aspect to understand about BULL MARKETS is the proper definition
for a bull market[/b] to occur, the item must rise in terms of ALL currencies otherwise it is merely adjusting for local conditions.
Illustrated above is gold express in a basket of currencies and dollars. While the everyone was so bullish on gold and calling for it to go back to $1,000 after 1985, these two charts showed why gold was NOT in a bull market and the trend was merely being disguised by 40% swings in the currency.

Right now, despite the Indian government’s best efforts to curb their citizens from buying gold, the black market for gold is rising. This is not because gold is in a BULL MARKET, it is because of the plummeting rupee. This is the same problem we had with gold following 1985 and the formation of the G5 who publicly declared they wanted the dollar to decline by 40%. Gold rallied, but only in dollars. In terms of a basket of currencies, it was still declining and continued its bear market into 1999.

Right now, gold hit a nine-month high on India’s domestic bullion market over the weekend. This is NOT bullish for gold in dollars, only in isolated terms of the rupee. When we look at not just the capital flows, but the movement of gold and where it goes the facts are interesting and support what has been going on in Asia. Yes, the gold ETFs hit a record of some 2,632 tonnes (93 million ounces) in December 2012. However, during the first half of this year, the outflows of gold reached about 670 tonnes. The selling of gold continued until August with the losses amount to nearly $60 billion.

If we look closely, the gold that flowed out of the UK moved typically to Switzerland where the refiners are located. This was almost 800 tonnes for the first half of the year. For the same period. that flow was only 92 tonnes for 2012. From Switzerland, the gold typically moves to then Hong Kong. But the outflow from the Swiss was less than half that meaning that more than 400 tonnes remained in Switzerland.

Therefore, almost 400 tonnes flowed to Asia. This has been a hedge against the falling Asian currencies rather than a buying for the sake of expecting gold to rally to new high right now. We are dealing with localized currency issues. The catalyst for the real BULL MARKET in gold will come most likely after 2015.75 when people begin to question government on a more worldwide scale. Ask the average person if he thinks the US government will not honor its obligations and they will ask you if you left your tin-foil hat in the car.

Understanding that it is not just gold that rises when a currency declines, but all tangible forms of assets including stocks and real estate. Even when there was the hyperinflation in Germany, the new currency that replace the inflated currency was backed by real estate – not gold. It is everything that rises for everything truly has an international value. Companies are moving back offices to Poland because they have an educated work force, are political stable, and are very cheap. China began seeing jobs move to the Philippines and India because their labor began to rise and the quality was questionable in many areas.

I saw real estate in British pounds at then record highs in 1985 when the pound fell to $1.03. Foreign capital poured in while local capital could not see the vale since they were still in pounds on both sides of the transaction.

Currency is a language. If I said I will give you $1 trillion Zimbabwe dollars during the inflation, you would have pick up a paper to try to figure out what that was worth in your own currency. Then and only then could you make a judgment of value. No matter what you think about money, even the wildest gold promoters express their projections still in dollars to give you an idea of value. That is how we measure wealth – not in gold. We do not recalculate into grams of gold. We see our local currency as the measurement of value. India is doing the same thing.

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Mede daarom heb ik fysiek gekocht. Als ik gedacht had dat de Euro de Dollar zou gaan vervangen, of anderszins een sterke munt was geworden .... had ik niet zo overtuigd fysiek gekocht. Mijn fysiek is dus o.m. de hedge tegen de Euro(politiek) en tussentijdse papierhandel doe ik o.b.v. zwaktes in de dollar (de laatste maanden dus even niet, want het is me te onzeker welke kant het uit wil). Aangezien er nog immer veel geld naar de VS trekt, verwacht ik niet dat comex-goud gaat uitbreken .... eerder volgend jaar de gezette low testen.
In de tussentijd maak ik me geen zorgen om fysiek Eurogoud, want de straks weer dalende crimex-goudprijs, zal (grotendeels) gecompenseerd worden door een dalende €/U$.
De Europese en Aziatische tekorten in fysiek zijn feitelijk een wantrouwen in onderliggende valuta's.

Als de dollar na 2015.75 in de problemen komt, is het de vraag of de euro nog bestaat en als dat zo is .... dan wordt een snelle stijging van de crimex-goudprijs, tav fysiek eurogoud neerwaards beïnvloed door een oplopende €/U$.
Juist dáárom doe ik naast fysiek ook nog papierhandel, waar ik per minuut uit- en in kan stappen, wat met fysiek niet lukt. M'n papierhandel haalt namelijk wat van het goudprijs-dempende effect door de €/U$ weg ...... ;)
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dinsdag beginnen de goudmijners in Zuid-Afrika te staken
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-23900264
dit weekend oorlog in Syrië?
september wordt leuk (voor goud toch)... :mrgreen:

en midden oktober moet Congress stemmen over de debt ceiling, dat wordt weer lachen :roll:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-to- ... 2013-08-26
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