Hooimijt November 2011

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Zytom wrote:
doubleyou wrote:.
Venezuela heeft gelijk.
Liever écht HUN goud in eigen land, dan een tegoed-briefje van goud !
Want het staat als een paal boven water dat het bedrag van alle tegoed-briefjes / goud-certificaten, het aanwezig fysieke in die vaults sterk overstijgt.
Dat lijkt mij een groot pijnpunt in het Europese goudverhaal.

Een groot deel van het goud van bv. België, Nederland en Duitsland zou zich in de VS bevinden. Van België weten we bovendien dat maar liefst 41% van de goudreserves eind 2010 uitgeleend was aan derden in ruil voor een rendement van 0.3%.

Op papier heeft Europa heel wat goud, maar hoeveel zal Europa in extremis echt bezitten :?:
De markt is daar keihard in, zoals altijd. Komt er een freegoldmarkt, zoals sommigen denken .... pak dan je stoffer en blik maar voor de EU en de VS en de UK en Japan ......
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Re: Hooimijt November 2011

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$707,568,901,000,000: How (And Why) Banks Increased Total Outstanding Derivatives By A Record $107 Trillion In 6 Months


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/707568901 ... trillion-6
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Re: Hooimijt November 2011

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Commodity Corner: Why are gold and silver falling?
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http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/fea ... 662892.ece

Eerst 52% stijgen, om dan opnieuw 13% te zakken, niks aan de hand dus...
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Re: Hooimijt November 2011

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positive wrote:$707,568,901,000,000: How (And Why) Banks Increased Total Outstanding Derivatives By A Record $107 Trillion In 6 Months


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/707568901 ... trillion-6
Tja, dat zeggen we al veel langer, al die afgeleide producten en gestructureerde producten zijn de dodende ziektekiemen en gezwellen van de huidige financiële industrie. Triest.
Zo'n grote bedragen, dat kan ik nog niet meer lezen :?
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Obi-Wan wrote:Wel grappig/ironisch en tragisch dat Celente, beroemd van het hameren op fysiek metaal bezit, zichzelf dik heeft laten kloten in een papiercarousel... :lol: :mrgreen: :lol: Ik vraag me eigenlijk af of dit opgaat voor veel van zulke commentatoren...


Gerald Celente Loses Six Figures in MF Global Bankruptcy, Investors Beware

Those of you who frequent the Gold Silver News, know and recognize Gerald Celente, the founder and publisher of The Trends Journal.
This past week Mr. Celente revealed that he has lost more than six figures of funds with Lind-Waldock, a commodities futures brokerage that was owned by MF Global (who filed for bankruptcy on October 31, 2011).

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celente is een held !
visie belangrijker dan bezit.
wat ie natuurlijk ook nog steeds heeft. genoeg in bezit.

overigens is ie het niet verloren maar is het gewoon gejat
groot verschil !
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Re: Hooimijt November 2011

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‘De echte goudmanie komt nog, als je goud hebt, hou het vast’
DOOR ARNOUT HEEMSKERK

http://www.dekritischebelegger.nl/grond ... -komt-nog/
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Re: Hooimijt November 2011

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Obi-Wan wrote:Wel grappig/ironisch en tragisch dat Celente, beroemd van het hameren op fysiek metaal bezit, zichzelf dik heeft laten kloten in een papiercarousel... :lol: :mrgreen: :lol: Ik vraag me eigenlijk af of dit opgaat voor veel van zulke commentatoren...
Hij was echt pissed hoorde op KWNews.

Waarom fysiek kopen door futurescontracten aan te houden tot delivery ipv gewoon naar de goudboer te wandelen ;)

wilde toch wat fiat verdienen natuurlijk...
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First shipment of repatriated gold lands in Venezuela

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Central Bank chief Nelson Merentes did not say how much gold was brought back in Friday's shipment.
"The gold comes from several European countries," Merentes told reporters at the airport.
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What is the Pan Asia Gold Exchange? (=PAGE)

China’s Yunnan Province, the southernmost tip of China, is often referred to as the “gateway to Southeast Asia,” sharing borders with Vietnam, Laos, Burma, and Tibet. After virtually two millennia as a commercial and agricultural hub, this strategically-located province and its new development have been receiving little attention in the mainstream Western financial world that is currently focused on their own fiscal calamities.

Picture the 240 million retail banking customers of the massive Agricultural Bank of China having the ability to buy physical gold from the comfort of their own home online, on a dime. One can imagine what impact that would have on the price of gold, especially considering the cultural acceptance of gold in China, a country which also happens to be the world’s largest producer and consumer of gold. The World Gold Council estimates that the total amount of gold ever mined on planet Earth to the end of 2009 was approximately 165,000 tonnes. If every ABC customer bought just an ounce of gold, that would equal 7,500 tonnes, or five per cent of the world’s above ground gold supply.

This is not hyperbole, as the new Pan Asia Gold Exchange (PAGE) aims to do just that, and it is part of China’s twelfth five-year economic plan for achieving global, diplomatic, and financial superpower status.

Kunming City, located in the heart of Yunnan and boasting a history of over 2,400 years of trade, will be the home of the exchange, which aims to be fully-functional at the end of 2011, or as late as June 2012 by Forbes’s estimates. Ironically, after China’s failed communist experiments turned the city into a land of exiles where to which political prisoners were deported, economic freedom sparked its eventual economic about face, and in May 1995, the State Council of the People’s Republic of China approved Kunming as an Open City.

Staying consistent with their mission of “open, fair, and just transactions,” the exchange promises rigid leverage requirements, fair trade in gold mining, and to increase monetary flexibility. The first order of business: the clients of Agricultural Bank of China are allowed to purchase ten-ounce mini physical gold contracts or trade futures. PAGE will allow the average investor to buy and sell these contracts in RMB, the currency of mainland China. Second, non-Chinese investors will be able to buy into 90-day rolling spot contracts, also in RMB. The investor will then have the option of taking delivery or being paid in RMB.

Both options will surely impose significant pressure on the physical market, but what makes PAGE unique is that the gold buyer will also have the actual title to the gold he or she purchases, so the gold can be delivered to the buyer with relative ease. This also means that contracts are fully backed at one to one, paper to physical, a game changer that has interesting implications for established gold trading venues such as the London bullion market and the Comex futures exchange in New York.

Crucially, in unprecedented fashion, PAGE will be the first exchange in which the Renminbi, not dollars, will be used as the dominant currency in buying and selling gold contracts. So, if international investors purchase gold contracts that are denominated in RMB, they are effectively diversifying out of dollars and owning RMB. Therefore, this exchange is a very important development in exposing investors to RMB and consequently increasing its value. The potential effects cannot be underscored enough — PAGE is clearly preparing the world for a Chinese world reserve currency, and is doing this by bringing gold, and by extension silver, back into the Chinese economy.

China has experienced double-digit growth for most of the last 30 years, and has built up huge foreign exchange reserves. Some international estimates predict that it will become the world’s largest economy in five years, making this entrance a logical step for China as the world’s financial power continues shifting east.

The Western world may not be the most enthusiastic about this step forward for the RMB, but one thing believers in free markets could all agree on is that the debut of the Pan Asia Gold Exchange is consistent with the ideas of capitalism. Competition is healthy, and alternatives among exchange models bring more liquidity, better price discovery, and better demand and supply dynamics to the market. We should all welcome the arrival of PAGE.
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Re: Hooimijt November 2011

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Gold price going to $4,500: Here's why - Alf Field

Details of Alf Field's gold predictions at the Gold Symposium in Sydney which see gold going to $4500 but the possibility of a big correction first.
Author: Lorimer Wilson
Posted: Monday , 28 Nov 2011

http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/view/min ... pid=102055

Projected Future Price for Gold
The target for the Intermediate Wave III of Major THREE should be around $4,500 with only two 13% corrections on the way.
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