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Bulls and bears in gold and silver price confrontation
Gold and silver bears are in the ascendant, while bulls are licking their wounds as gold falls back around 20% - but where to from here?
Author: Lawrence Williams
Posted: Friday , 16 Dec 2011
http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/view/min ... &pid=92730
quote The mega gold bulls have been predicting big things for gold throughout - and undoubtedly will see the latest downturn as a major buying opportunity. But to be fair even some of those who have been bullish on gold right through did warn of possible retracing of the price by 20% or more back in the summer, although they see this as a natural correction in an ongoing bull market. Indeed gold has fallen back around 20% from its peak, although is still up on the year, and the bulls will maintain the gold bull market remains intact. The question is whether the price will hold firm at or around current levels, pick up, or fall still farther.
Hooimijt December 2011
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Re: Hooimijt December 2011
doubleyou wrote:Doordenkertje van Geert Noels :
"Iemand die iets ontvangt waarvoor hij niet gewerkt heeft, moet weten dat iemand ervoor gewerkt heeft maar het niet krijgt."
Solidariteit in 5 zinnen:
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for, without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from
somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!
5. When half of the people get the idea that, they do not have to work because the other half is going
to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because
somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.
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Re: Hooimijt December 2011
Is dat wel zo? Een ander moet daar nog voor werkendoubleyou wrote:Doordenkertje van Geert Noels :
"Iemand die iets ontvangt waarvoor hij niet gewerkt heeft, moet weten dat iemand ervoor gewerkt heeft maar het niet krijgt."

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Re: Hooimijt December 2011
Dat klopt hoor, wat iemand krijgt waarvoor hij niet heeft moeten werken dat heeft 'n andere niet gekregen waarvoor hij toch gewerkt heeft.
Als je het niet wil geloven, hier het bewijs. Niet werken en toch geld krijgen.
Als je het niet wil geloven, hier het bewijs. Niet werken en toch geld krijgen.
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Re: Hooimijt December 2011
http://goldswitzerland.com/index.php/eg ... orld-news/
In summary, this is what I said (with some additions):
•The current correction in gold is technical. There is very little physical selling and refiners have their order books full well into the second half of 2012.
•Technically this correction could last to the end of the year but it could end already at the end of next week. Support is at $1,530-50 and $1,410-20. Thus we could go that far down but this would be a golden opportunity to add to positions.
•The market is smelling deflation. With no QE we would have a deflationary collapse. No bank would survive a deflationary collapse. Nor would any government. There would be total chaos and no functioning financial system.
•Governments are petrified of deflation. They know the consequences which are unacceptable to them.
•Therefore, whatever governments say, there will be unlimited money printing led by the Fed, IMF and ECB plus other central banks.
•QE will not solve the problem, only kick the can down the road. There is no solution as I wrote in my latest piece “Deus ex Machina”.
•Worldwide QE will lead to currencies collapsing, a hyperinflationary depression and surging precious metals.Physical gold and silver (stored outside the banking system) is the ultimate method for preserving wealth.
In summary, this is what I said (with some additions):
•The current correction in gold is technical. There is very little physical selling and refiners have their order books full well into the second half of 2012.
•Technically this correction could last to the end of the year but it could end already at the end of next week. Support is at $1,530-50 and $1,410-20. Thus we could go that far down but this would be a golden opportunity to add to positions.
•The market is smelling deflation. With no QE we would have a deflationary collapse. No bank would survive a deflationary collapse. Nor would any government. There would be total chaos and no functioning financial system.
•Governments are petrified of deflation. They know the consequences which are unacceptable to them.
•Therefore, whatever governments say, there will be unlimited money printing led by the Fed, IMF and ECB plus other central banks.
•QE will not solve the problem, only kick the can down the road. There is no solution as I wrote in my latest piece “Deus ex Machina”.
•Worldwide QE will lead to currencies collapsing, a hyperinflationary depression and surging precious metals.Physical gold and silver (stored outside the banking system) is the ultimate method for preserving wealth.
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Re: Hooimijt December 2011
Schandalig gewoon.Spruitje wrote:Dat klopt hoor, wat iemand krijgt waarvoor hij niet heeft moeten werken dat heeft 'n andere niet gekregen waarvoor hij toch gewerkt heeft.
Als je het niet wil geloven, hier het bewijs. Niet werken en toch geld krijgen.
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Dat gaat allemaal veranderen. Meritocratie.
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God's Gold
Voor zij die wat lectuur kunnen gebruiken dit weekend.
http://mises.org/books/gold.pdf
Veel Leesgenot
PS: Ik moest een paar keer herbeginnen maar kreeg het tenslotte gedownload. Je ziet: geduld loont.
http://mises.org/books/gold.pdf
Veel Leesgenot
PS: Ik moest een paar keer herbeginnen maar kreeg het tenslotte gedownload. Je ziet: geduld loont.
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Re: Hooimijt December 2011
Bedankt voor de link. Lijkt me een boeiende aanvulling op Ron Chernow, Titan. The Life of John D. Rockefeller, sr., 1998, een boek dat ik onlangs heb meegebracht uit NYC. Ideaal voer voor lange winteravonden.
AKG, AUY, GG, HL, IAG, KGC, NCQ, NG
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Re: Hooimijt December 2011
Ik bedoel: de politiek heeft besloten dat misschien je achterkleinkinderen nog moeten gaan werken voor wat nu verkwist wordt.Spruitje wrote:Dat klopt hoor, wat iemand krijgt waarvoor hij niet heeft moeten werken dat heeft 'n andere niet gekregen waarvoor hij toch gewerkt heeft.
Als je het niet wil geloven, hier het bewijs. Niet werken en toch geld krijgen.
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Re: Hooimijt December 2011
Wees maar zeker dat er nog lang zal moeten voor gewerkt worden.
En van de grote kapitalen moeten ze het ook niet halen.
En van de grote kapitalen moeten ze het ook niet halen.
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